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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 00:20

damn wish id researched it. my mistake
or the seller had mentioned it as he knew it was our first external filter.
will crack on with it tomorrow
thanks so much for your help xxx
god its hard coming back to fishkeeping! external filters were rare last time i was into fish.
thank god i kept the fry tank on internal filter!
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Post by Guest on 2/9/2012, 00:21

that will more than likely be the problem if it does have carbon in start treatment again then that will sort it

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Post by Guest on 2/9/2012, 00:23

they are easy really all need to remember is anytime you medicate the tank allways take carbon out

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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 00:32

well let's just hope this solves the problem
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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 10:38

Well filter def does not have carbon in it.
It did however have a Khuli loach living happily in there.
Back to the drawing board...
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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 15:31

It must be something completely different than what you are treating for so what symptoms do the fish have?
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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 17:03

None that I can tell. The only one who showed anything was red male. They just die. Nothing I can see on bodies
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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 17:04

Have you had anymore loses today?
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Post by Guest on 2/9/2012, 17:58

when lornas where dying they had white milky slime over the body and gills

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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 18:06

Must be something completely different that's all I can think of
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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 18:24

Lost another neon over night but nothing today.
Numbers have increased due to finding the khulie in the external filter!
Continued treatment do will give it few more days. Had morons long time. No more guppies lost at least
Not seen anything like slime tho
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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 18:26

Let's just hope that is the last of the losses as I really don't know what else to say all you can do is to keep treating really which is what you are already doing anyway, just out of interest what did you have in your external filter?
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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 19:05

4 sponges and about 4trays of bead type things. And a Khuli which I am so impressed with. Came from AA and we though we had lost all 3 but guess not!
Must have been in filter at least 6weeks probably more
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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 19:29

Oh well I suppose that's a bonus but it still doesn't explain what on earth is happening at the moment I am stumped.
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Post by debnel on 2/9/2012, 20:50

It's got to be something different from you guys anyway. Especially if your was cause by the water board problem.
Will give it a few more days & see. Not much else I can do anyways
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Post by Siamese fighter on 2/9/2012, 20:52

No that's very true those treatments will kill a lot of different diseases and you have no carbon in your filter and your water is fine I am at a total loss cannot understand it at all, just keep on doing what you are doing and maybe give colin another ring just in case he can suggest something different.
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Post by debnel on 3/9/2012, 08:01

No losses this morning. That's the first 24hours in quite a while without a death!
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Post by Guest on 3/9/2012, 15:35

thats great news lets hope its finally starting to work if it carries on with no losses it could be bacterial but normally bacterial shows signs of it also the tank i had probs with my new angels are on eggs which we are over the moon about


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Post by Siamese fighter on 3/9/2012, 15:58

Great news deb let's hope that's the end of it.
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Post by debnel on 3/9/2012, 17:46

Well got home from work and all fine so far!!
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Post by Guest on 3/9/2012, 18:48

sounds like might have cracked it

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Post by Siamese fighter on 3/9/2012, 18:55

Good to hear it you never know fingers crossed.
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Post by debnel on 4/9/2012, 17:50

well still going well, no more losses yet.
am gonna have to do a water change on the fry tank this week tho.
i cleaned the filter media but hasnt helped much.
ill just a do a partial but i also need to clean the net the fry are in as its starting to go green. id like to move them into the clear floating tank as then we can see them rather than having to lift the lid and peer in. any thoughts/ advice about doing this?
i know mick said a month before water changes but its starting to smell and am concerned this will hurt them more than the change would.
i wont be using water from my main tank due to recent issues lol!
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Post by Siamese fighter on 4/9/2012, 19:19

Glad to hear you have no more losses it's starting to sound like you might have it cracked, I wouldn't mess about with the fry just yet I know you are worrying about the smell but if you start messing around with them it could do more harm than good.
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Post by debnel on 12/9/2012, 18:48

well decided to bring the subject back to the title above!
breeding bettas!
today i decided to change the net floating tank my betta fry are in (within my fry tank thank god!) its was going a really funny colour and was the cause of the smell in tank.
so i have now moved them from net to a plastic traditional floater. bonus is that I can see them much easier.
i had to ever so carefully catch them and ease them into new floating tank whilst never letting them leave the water lol!
the good news is that i thought i might have at best 5 or 6 fry.
no i have 9 or 10!!!
woohoo!
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